The Demon Of Racism

[-DarkKnyt-]

im still wiaitng for your apology in that case

[LillyNomad]

I had a disturbing discussion last night with a black women who emmigrated from Jamaica and immigrated to Canada. She asked me about myself and what I was doing. I explained a little about myself (accounting background, writing,)waiting for something to finalize here before I go back to Cincinnati, Ohio, and about my work with Brad's business plan for South Africa.

She asked me why should he help the "blacks" in S.A. when he could be helping them here in Canada. I was incensed at that stupid remark. I tried in vain to explain the South African Transitionships program to her, but it fell on deaf ears. The program would benefit blacks and the whites; all South Africans.
I tried to explain that S.A. would not have to depend on foreign aid etc. that there are programs here in Canada and the States that S.A. does not have access or funding that we have here. The situation in S.A. is much more dire than what is going on in Canada.

She went on to say that I was a racist by labeling people by calling them black etc.;that I should just say people.Was I wrong to say the white S.A. or the black S.A.? Am I a racist? I love all people of colour.

I walked away from the conversation when she started to bad mouth Canada. Such pessissism everywhere! I should have told her to get off welfare and get a job and stop blaming racism from preventing her from finding work. If she spent less time in bars and having three children from three different fathers....need I go on?

I am so stupid; why did I even bother.

SillyNomad,

[-DarkKnyt-]

M'lady lilly

I have worked with many different people in SA and in Canada. in SA, a black man calls a black man a black man and a white man a white man, a white man calls a white man a white man and a black man a black man. the general feeling is: WHO CARES?
now in canada i find the political and racial situation alot more intense and kinda immature. ive found that the black, coloured, indian people ive worked with really cant be bothered with the immature politicians or people who want to carry on living in the past.

L8r

[Mandi]

The future of South Africa does not lie in a white man, and will never. What will shape the future of the country are efforts of all its citizens, black, coloured, indian or white. You seem to fall in a trap of being racist in thinking. Maybe you should stop using the terms black or white if it is out of mischief - to help the black. What is that?

[Edited by Mandi on 23rd January 2001 at 14:29]

[-DarkKnyt-]

mandi
did you read my post?
my black friends used to tell me that they are a black man and im a white man and that that was a fact. they also said... WHO CARES????? who care what if one is black and who is white.
anyone who puts censorship on the words "black man" is racist

[Mandi]

The definition of racism in the context of the struggle for freedom suggests that an oppressed person cannot at the same time be racist since he/she cannot simultaneously be the oppressed and the oppressor. Racism is about means, and where they reside.

It is then the duty of white people, in SA and elsewhere, to shift from occupying positions of oppressors by embracing the programme to fully transform our society and making policies such as ``affirmative action'' work. Black people need, and are capable of, partaking in their country's economy to address the imbalances of the past, and to stop the sharp inequalities that exist between people living in areas such as Khayelitsha and Hout Bay.

It is against this background that I cautioned especially white people against using terms that had long defined them as racist in thinking and character. The trick is to stop seeing different races and believing the fallacy of inferior and superior races. Rather, must learn to see one human race.

[By teh way it's evening. Let me rush for telly news as Judge Heath continues to make the headlines down here. See ya!]

[dokkie]

LillyNomad

After labouring through your first post, i am glad i did...it gave me a new insight into the problem of racism. It is quite comprehensive and i request permission to use some of your material for a web site i am busy with.
Just two questions though (for now):
....was communism not also declared a crime against humanity ?
....did crimes against humanity only occur in the 20th. century ?