What other Africans say about Zimbabwe's crisis and other African problems

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[Theja]

Though not an African, I admire Mugabe in trying to promote African pride and restore African morale. The sad part is that he is doing it the wrong way, and has only succeeded in keeping himself in power by brutal suppression, wreaking havoc to the economy, and becoming a shameless tyrant in the eyes of the world.

Just as the military junta in Myanmar has become the 'toilet' of ASEAN. Dictatorship, abuse/misuse of national wealth, and insatiable hunger to stay in power always go down in history as abhorent.

[ches]

Originally Posted by Theja

Though not an African, I admire Mugabe in trying to promote African pride and restore African morale.

Theja you have it exactly backwards. He is using pro-Africanist speech to divert attention from his hideous human rights violations. The only moral response to Robert Mugabe's latter-day actions is unbridled condemnation. If you want to have any respect for him, look to his much earlier career and his role in the liberation of Zimbabwe from Ian Smith's oppressive rule.

It seems amazing considering the situation today, but the people of Zimbabwe were free for about a decade or so.

[Theja]

You ignored the sad part.... he really had African pride, but the monster in him took over and set in motion a string of disasters.

[ches]

Originally Posted by Theja

You ignored the sad part.... he really had African pride, but the monster in him took over and set in motion a string of disasters.

I don't know an African who doesn't have African pride. There are some on this board who are horribly disappointed in the ANC government, but even they, while they say they could never live in the "New" South Africa, do not deny loving their country dearly.

[Theja]

If you don't know, then it doesn't exist (to you)? Mugabe has pride and arrogance, but he realized that people don't survive on them alone, so now he's cornered into propecting his own self-interest and his cronies by employing this pride and arrogance --- a vicious cycle.

[OBAMBLA]

Europeans should pay to rebuild a continent they raped for centuries.