White Europeans In S. A. and Slavery

[Karagatho]

Well I'm not a huge fan of the Israel thing Either ,so
I'll just leave that there....

Now ,are you saying you support the sueing of the ANC
for apartheid ? if so ...well what more can I say...
You also support the childrens children sueing the
somebodys children's children for something done
by people in the origonal generation ?
there must be actually about 9 generations between the
end of slavery and now.
Let me tell you straight ,you are only doing this for
the money! you couldn't care less for the people this
happend to! you just want to hurt somebody!
I feel Americans blacks have been coddled too long ,and
like a child are becoming self pitying.
Everytime somebody says "The blacks suffered under slavery,
bla bla..." the whites cringe and give pity etc..
then they think "AHA! I'll milk this for all its worth"
and off they go and eventually we get here.....
"Pay up!" PAY up??? heck I wish they would so you
Americans can shutup!
Kill all the whites?, I mean really! are you alright?

If I'm right ,and we go down the Civil war path here ,I'm
going to blame YOU ,as nuts as it seems!

[SultanHaluk]

Newsflash to black supremacists

You are not the indigenous race of southern Africa, neither the white man. It is the poor forgotten bushman, downtrodden by white and black alike.

And in reality what does "indigenous" mean. It is ultimately meaningless to try to claim this belongs to us, that to them etc...

The whole of human history is of flow, migration, mixture, separation, and sadly, conquest and brutality too. And if you think the white man is only guilty of this, then you are woefully misguided, probably undereducated and extremely neurotic. Get some help.

The whites should leave Africa like the blacks should leave Europe, like the whites should leave the Americas - oh - and what about those troublesome Indonesians in Madagascar? Perhaps we should send the Scots back to Ireland too - no doubt the Picts will be delighted.

And incidentally whites in Africa are approximately numerically on a par with the blacks in Europe - not vastly superior. So how's about adopting a really progressive attitude and accepting all your countrymen equally as in Europe with its "fancy gates" (!!!!) - which remain open to all peoples.

As for slavery, yes blacks, Arabs and whites were all involved - and in the Sudan it still goes on - not many white men there by the way!

I won't tell you where I am from nor my colour - it is utterly irrelevant.

Whites who are cowed and ashamed of South African history - don't be ashamed of someone else's past - be proud of the future you are making. Sorry to have to say what is crushingly obvious - without the white man South Africa would not be the strongest economy in Africa that it is today - something that all SAs can benefit from now.

And if you are still spitting anti-white vitriole may i recommend a course of intensive psychotherapy

[itchy8me]

thank you for saying that!

bluntly said

A VERY ****ING BIG AMEN TO THAT!!!

[Semjaja]

Originally Posted by SultanHaluk

Newsflash to black supremacists

You are not the indigenous race of southern Africa, neither the white man. It is the poor forgotten bushman, downtrodden by white and black alike.

And in reality what does "indigenous" mean. It is ultimately meaningless to try to claim this belongs to us, that to them etc...

The whole of human history is of flow, migration, mixture, separation, and sadly, conquest and brutality too. And if you think the white man is only guilty of this, then you are woefully misguided, probably undereducated and extremely neurotic. Get some help.

The whites should leave Africa like the blacks should leave Europe, like the whites should leave the Americas - oh - and what about those troublesome Indonesians in Madagascar? Perhaps we should send the Scots back to Ireland too - no doubt the Picts will be delighted.

And incidentally whites in Africa are approximately numerically on a par with the blacks in Europe - not vastly superior. So how's about adopting a really progressive attitude and accepting all your countrymen equally as in Europe with its "fancy gates" (!!!!) - which remain open to all peoples.

As for slavery, yes blacks, Arabs and whites were all involved - and in the Sudan it still goes on - not many white men there by the way!

I won't tell you where I am from nor my colour - it is utterly irrelevant.

Whites who are cowed and ashamed of South African history - don't be ashamed of someone else's past - be proud of the future you are making. Sorry to have to say what is crushingly obvious - without the white man South Africa would not be the strongest economy in Africa that it is today - something that all SAs can benefit from now.

And if you are still spitting anti-white vitriole may i recommend a course of intensive psychotherapy

amen to that! i got so wrapped up in this diatribe that i forgot about that.
something i'd like to add if i may, why do we always fall for this divisive rubbish?
we are all south africans, i hate t say it, but it is a non-african (african-american is american in my opinion) that is telling us south africans how to do things. hilarious!
i support south africa, i reject my people's past, the systematic 500 year exploitation and slaughter of africans, i reject it outright. i am willing to stay here and help all i can, i'm not going to europe, what for? i have a south african birth certificate, albeit an old one but if i went to get a re-issue, they'd happily give me an new one with the new south african emblem on it, proof of my birthright to live in this country. where is yours nubian? africa is a diverese place, with many peoples, religions and cultures and you are very much welcome, but south africans have decided what they want. who are you to challenge that?
united we stand my friends, and when people see unity, they are quick to try and break it. don't let them.

[liza81]

Hey Semjaja, welcome to the board. You are about two years late in this debate, but hey!

I think it's quite funny that the title talks about "White Europeans"