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Old 23rd December 2003, 03:06
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are there any noteble mixed SoutAfricans(coloureds)? i have only heard of Afrkaners and Rhodes and blacks.
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Old 23rd December 2003, 06:34
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What do you mean by notable? Do you mean do they exist as a racial group is South Africa, or are you asking if there are famous coloureds?

What are Rhodes? Don't think of heard of them before

I can't think of any coloured who is famous outside of the RSA. Can anyone else think of someone? Maybe an athlete?

I got the following info from this webpage: http://reference.allrefer.com/countr...-africa57.html
This one has some extra info:
http://www.mixedfolks.com/africa.htm

Roughly 3.2 million South Africans of mixed-race (Khoikhoi and European or Asian) ancestry were known as "coloureds" in apartheid terminology. About 83 percent of them speak Afrikaans as their first language, and most of the remainder speak English as their first language. Almost 85 percent of coloureds live in Western Cape and Northern Cape provinces, and a sizable coloured community lives in KwaZulu-Natal.

The largest subgroup within the coloured population is the Griqua, a largely Afrikaner-Khoikhoi population that developed a distinct culture as early as the seventeenth century. Their community was centered just north of the area that later became the Orange Free State. Growing conflicts with Afrikaner farmers and, later, diamond diggers, prompted Griqua leaders to seek the protection of the British, and later, to relocate portions of their community to the eastern Cape Colony and Natal. Nineteenth- a nd twentieth-century demands for land and the implementation of apartheid forced Griqua communities to move repeatedly, and many eventually settled north of Cape Town. They number at least 300,000 in the 1990s. Most speak a variant of Afrikaans as their f irst language and are members of the Dutch Reformed Church.

Another large subgroup, the Cape Malays, number about 180,000, primarily in the Western Cape, in the 1990s. Most are descendants of Afrikaners, indigenous Khoikhoi, and slaves brought to South Africa from the Dutch East Indies. The Cape Malays have re tained many cultural elements from their diverse origins, but they are recognized as a distinct community largely because most are Muslims.

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Old 23rd December 2003, 12:57
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i ment like famous coloureds. I was talking about Cecil Rhodes, i may be spelling it wrong. the British imperialist?

thanks for that article! thats my family at the bottom there...
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Old 27th December 2003, 14:07
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i ment like famous coloureds. I was talking about Cecil Rhodes, i may be spelling it wrong. the British imperialist?

thanks for that article! thats my family at the bottom there...
WA van der Stel, Governor of the Cape (1699-1708)
had an Indian mother and a Dutch father. On average every "white" person's DNA is 6% African. So if you got half of your DNA from each of your parents then a lot of whites would be sixth to eighth generation coloureds......
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Old 3rd January 2004, 11:55
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Wink Coloured Commandments

The Commandments
• I believe that I am the best in the street where I live. Anyone who lives in a bigger house, drives a better car or whose kids attends a more expensive school is liable to receive some unfair treatment, harassment or verbal slurs from me. I believe that I am better than anyone else, and the minute that I see another coloured excel, I will suppress, oppress and undermine their achievements. Even my own children.

I believe that when I am in need, then the neighbor is obliged to give me whatever I need (like sugar, rice or even a few rands), otherwise that neighbor is not fit to be regarded as a friend or acquaintance
• I believe that I am compelled to obtain new possessions as determined by the rate at which my neighbors or work colleagues acquire new possessions. I am entitled to have the loudest musical system, the biggest satellite dish and the most expensive clothes on the market (all clothes should be designer-labeled). Should I not be able to afford this, I am entitled to sink my heavy ass into debts that I know I will not be able to pay.
• I believe that I have the right to afford my children education on the basis that I can boast about their achievements like it was my own. I retain the right to assess scholastic progress better than the drunken teacher. Education has not worked for me; so it will work for them as long their education do not surpass mine, as I made them. My children will work for me once they have completed their studies. My children are not to think for themselves.
• I believe that I may call black people ‘kaffirs’; white people ‘dutchmen’; asians ‘koelies’ and other coloureds ‘hotnot’ or ‘gam’. In addition, I believe that I am better than anybody is and nobody may address me as any of the above because it is politically incorrect to label me as such. Such labeling is a direct violation of my basic human rights but not yours.
• I believe that all white and black people are racist. I believe that I am racially tolerant by not allowing my children to play with black children because black people slaughter animals in their yards and believe in the tokolosh. I reserve the right to protect my children against the onslaughts of the white man’s way of living, allowing their offspring economic freedom. I believe, in addition, that my child should never be independent of me otherwise I have not been a good parent.
• I believe that I am not African. I am born on the South African continent. My narrow-mindedness is more than a vice and it does indeed surpass my intellect, don’t you forget that.
• I believe that my social constitution and laws are governed by what people think of me. The perception of what other people will say determines what I believe.
• I believe that the government owes me a house and an education due to the inequities of the past. Why should I work for what I want, as my drinking time will be cut in half and besides, the government owes me.
• I believe that all other religions are an abomination of my religion and belief in God. May they have a happy journey to hell, God bless them. My authority should not be questioned because I have the Church by my side. At least I am saved.
• I believe that once I get elected to office or any committee, as it is due to me, I will turn my back on those idiots that elected me for that position. As long as I earn a good salary, I will not do anything to uplift my community, I don’t owe them anything.
• Breaching any of the commandments will afford you extra-special names like ‘coconut’, ‘traitor’ or even ‘gatkruiper’. A first offence, in most cases, will be forgiven. After that, any act shall be scrutinized and deemed suspicious. You are warned.
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Old 3rd January 2004, 18:23
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werner, are you just trying to start a barney? You are going to upset some people something fierce!
Just as well really, maybe some life will come back to the board then!
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Old 8th January 2004, 04:26
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"I believe that I am not African. I am born on the South African continent"

South Africa is not countinent. it is a country. the region of Southern Africa is not a continent either.
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