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Old 10th October 2005, 17:42
Semjaja Semjaja is offline
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Smile Credo Mutwa and Ancient African History

hi evryone, this is my first post here. i hope it is in the right place.
i have recently discovered the work of an amazing south african, namely credo mutwa.
i have a serious interest in mythology and history, and seeing as i'm south african, i thought i'd focus my attention on my own backyard, so to speak.
i've long felt that africa's place in the 'world history' is orely lacking. africa is the cradle of human life, and yet is hardly ever given credit for the part it has played in the history of the world.
for example, i've been working on a theory that the gold used by ancient egyptians was originally mined in southern africa, namely south africa and zimbabwe. gold has been mined here for centuries, but is hardly very given any credit, gold mining is said to be first started here in white settlers about a hundred or so years ago, nothing could be further from the truth! here is an excerpt from one of ex-pres mandela's speeches at the opening address of the sub-saharan oil and minerals conference in 1993 :
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Colonial history books have totally ignored the enormous heritage of African mining. Contrary to the assertions of the so-called "discoverers" of Africa, mining has been an important economic activity in Southern Africa for thousands of years. For instance, The Ngwenya Mine in Swaziland is one of the oldest in the region and ochres were mined there over 40,000 years ago.

Apart from iron-ore mining across the subcontinent, there are over four thousand ancient gold mines recorded on the greenstone belts of the Transvaal, Zimbabwe, Botswana and Mozambique. The latter formed part of the Empire of Monomotapa which included the northern Transvaal. Base minerals, such as copper workings at Phalaborwa, have been dated as early as the eighth century.

With the advent of European colonialism, mining became the preserve of the settlers and naked exploitation became the order of the day.
this my friends is only the tip of the iceberg!

similarities between ancient egyptian and khoi/san rituals involving the ritual of burning of diamonds in an animal skin (bull for egyptians, eland for khoi/san) have been recorded by one brenda sullivan, a one time diamond miner, now alternativ historian.

please feel free to view my thread about credo mutwa and ancient african history at the following link http://www.davidickeforum.com/forum/...24ddaf928c7a59

but be warned, leave your preconieved notion at the door.
i hope this is of some interest and may be the beginning of a new outlook for you about our amazing continenent.
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Old 29th November 2005, 11:58
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anybody read this? anybody care?
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Old 4th April 2006, 20:55
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i am so sad that no south african has anything to say about this fantastic information.
i am indeed ashamed. this info is the original myth of african creation, not one of you has even bothered to have a look.shame on you, there is no point in me being here any longer. thank you for humouring me, but i shall take my leave. it seems all you lot seem to be interested in is bickering, good luck.
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Old 20th April 2006, 14:51
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Your asertions are quite true. The current history is grossly distorted. It is designed to brainwash particularly the Africans. Africans have played a role in the establishment of civilisation. People seem to forget that ancient Egypty was not Arabic as it is today but black.
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Old 20th April 2006, 20:50
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I don't think the current history books were written to brainwash Africans, I think they were distorted with the bias of the authors. Nepalese history books probably don't credit Sir Edmund Hillary with being the first man to climb Mt Everest. They also probably don't call it Mt. Everest.

This is probably why South African text books have been rewritten over the past 15 years.
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Old 21st April 2006, 11:53
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I don't think the current history books were written to brainwash Africans, I think they were distorted with the bias of the authors. Nepalese history books probably don't credit Sir Edmund Hillary with being the first man to climb Mt Everest. They also probably don't call it Mt. Everest.

This is probably why South African text books have been rewritten over the past 15 years.

Any dissemination of untrue information has got the ultimate object of potraying our history in a manner that tends to misrepresents the truth about us and that really amounts to the brainswashing of the unsuspecting consumers of that information. It is very difficult to reverse the injury already caused as long as the media, publishers, authors etc are remaining predominantly white. Look at our school system. Anything that is African is mocked upon and labelled irrelevant and primitive and this includes the traditional African beliefs which are still outlawed by the Witchcraft suppression act. Christianity remains dominant in our school system. Our Children are not being groomed to become Africans in an Independent South Africa. Hate speech is publicly uttered by the Christianity directing their hate, intimidation etc towards the African Tradition every Sundays and at every opportunity. Tradional Africans are being labelled as witches by the Christians. There has been an upsage in witch burnings in rural areas something that has got much to do with the Catholic Orders against the heretics. Our leaders are even passing laws eg the one passed to outlaw virginity testing something that is viewed as a direct onslaught against African beliefs by the African elite in collaboration with their masters.
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Old 21st April 2006, 19:04
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Actually, virginity testing is viewed as an enslaught against women, hence its banning. I wholeheartedly support the ban, and I imagine you would too if you were a woman.

The fact is, virginity testing was resurrected to blame women for AIDS through their promiscuity and detract from the fact that traditional medicine cannot halt the progression of HIV and to perpetuate men's "rights" to demand sex when and how they want it.

"Virginity testing" is an abomination. It is a dispicable practise, nearly as bad as female circumcision. Just because it is a "traditional African" practise, it doesn't make it a good one or one that ought to be preserved.

Similarly, all that is western is not bad. For instance, you're using the internet to advance your political opinions instead of using the kraal.
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