South Africans go on a Killing Spree of Immigrants!!

[Som-pride]

You kidding me? what wonderful country?

Over 300 Somalis were brutaly murdered and their shops burned just because they were making money and were successful. When ppl are doing their own business, they aren't taking you jobs, they are making jobs for the country and strengthening the economy!

Zimbabweans helped South Africans during the aparthied, most South Africans fled to Zimbabwe! they lived and work there!

South Africa just took independance in 1994, alot of African countries were involved in their quest for freedom, Somalia was one of them! Said Bare was the chairman of African Union and he urged South African's freedom alot of times!

Indians live there and do business and nobody kills them, Whites that slaved and invaded the country is forgiven and is okey with them!
But fellow Africans come there to do business and be a part of the South African dream -and what do we get, killing spree, racism, torture, some burned alive, shops looted!
That is very backward and animalistic! that is very disappointing and South Africa should be boycotted, untill they clean up their streets, find jobs for their ppl, and lock up the crimminals, pass laws for immigrants and human rights and enforce it!

[Skhotha]

Som-pride,
The rainbow nation, my brother, living on the southern most tip of the African continent constitutes the wonderful country I'm talking about.
Have an ounce of integrity to go with your pride. Base your attack on my home on the truth and not lies. Thats the honourable way that leads to constructive critisism and we can take learnings from your view point. What 300 Somali's were killed? Check your facts my brother.
Tell me when did the Somali businessmen arrive in South Africa? If you put a different spin on this issue and look at this brotherly relationship from a different side you might reach a different conclusion. When democracy finally arrived in 1994 the majority of the country was poorly educated as part of the oppresive regimes method of keeping the African down in the gutter. Tell me, my brother, where do you think they would have received instant education?
Some people had been living as foreigners in their own country and they had never had the pleasure of moving freely in their country of birth. Guess what happened next. Before our grandfathers had learned how to count and write our brothers arrived to partake of the new democracy. Did they send teachers, no those that came were here to make a quick buck. Is that fair? Did we go on the rampage and kill people? NO!
The attacks, for which all truly South African people should not be blamed, are acts of criminals. They should be treated as such until the final verdict is made public. Maybe you haven't heard but over 1200 people have been arrested to date. Let the due process give conclusions based on a thorough investigation.
In conclusion, my brother, tell me this. How many Somalis were killed in Somalia since 1994 versus those killed in South Africa? Figures, especially percentages, are on the insensitive side because even a fraciton of a percent is a human life disrupted or destroyed. So please understand that I'm not condoning violence or playing this criminal behaviour down. I just want you, my brother, to open your eyes. Over 3 000 000 Zimbambweans are in SA illegaly. That is only brothers from one country, mind you. 56 people lost their lives, some are SA citizens, and 30 000 were displaced. Do the maths. Disease and accidents have the same sort of stats I suspect. Again I re-iterate, the taking of life by any person is a despicable act that should be punished to the full extent of the law and has no place in society.
Look to improve the world, my brother, don't spread doom and gloom.

[konsalik]

Originally Posted by Skhotha

Som-pride,
The rainbow nation, my brother, living on the southern most tip of the African continent constitutes the wonderful country I'm talking about.
Have an ounce of integrity to go with your pride. Base your attack on my home on the truth and not lies. Thats the honourable way that leads to constructive critisism and we can take learnings from your view point. What 300 Somali's were killed? Check your facts my brother.
Tell me when did the Somali businessmen arrive in South Africa? If you put a different spin on this issue and look at this brotherly relationship from a different side you might reach a different conclusion. When democracy finally arrived in 1994 the majority of the country was poorly educated as part of the oppresive regimes method of keeping the African down in the gutter. Tell me, my brother, where do you think they would have received instant education?
Some people had been living as foreigners in their own country and they had never had the pleasure of moving freely in their country of birth. Guess what happened next. Before our grandfathers had learned how to count and write our brothers arrived to partake of the new democracy. Did they send teachers, no those that came were here to make a quick buck. Is that fair? Did we go on the rampage and kill people? NO!
The attacks, for which all truly South African people should not be blamed, are acts of criminals. They should be treated as such until the final verdict is made public. Maybe you haven't heard but over 1200 people have been arrested to date. Let the due process give conclusions based on a thorough investigation.
In conclusion, my brother, tell me this. How many Somalis were killed in Somalia since 1994 versus those killed in South Africa? Figures, especially percentages, are on the insensitive side because even a fraciton of a percent is a human life disrupted or destroyed. So please understand that I'm not condoning violence or playing this criminal behaviour down. I just want you, my brother, to open your eyes. Over 3 000 000 Zimbambweans are in SA illegaly. That is only brothers from one country, mind you. 56 people lost their lives, some are SA citizens, and 30 000 were displaced. Do the maths. Disease and accidents have the same sort of stats I suspect. Again I re-iterate, the taking of life by any person is a despicable act that should be punished to the full extent of the law and has no place in society.
Look to improve the world, my brother, don't spread doom and gloom.

Altough I agree with you to a certain degree - education of people (or the lack thereof) you have no idea what you are talking about whit regards to the xenophobia going on. Get out of your house and make a turn in the nearest township and talk to the PEOPLE. You will then better understand the hatred towards the foreigners and why they are being chased away. I do not agree, I do not condemn but I understand why it is happening. I still am and will always be PROUD to be a South African. But I am not blind for the faults and wrong doings of my fello countrymen. En Basta.

[Skhotha]

It is always good to hear that one is making sense in ones observations, thanks. I always consider my self blessed, even through the challenges that we face in this beautiful country. I do engage my neighbours & friends about where we are going as a country and this "xenophobic era" is no different. There are some people who do have such tendencies but they are in the minority. I will concede that maybe we are talking to completetly different sets of people but I have the blessing/ curse of working on the road. I live in a township during the week and in the capital city of KZN on the weekends, a sort of self imposed migrant worker in reverse So, as you can see, I see a broad spectrum of my South African brothers and sisters on a regular basis. BUT I hear your point that we must take the good with the bad BUT lets treat criminals alike I mean all robbers rob behind the shield of hunger. Why don't we cuddle them and say " Ag shame poor Mr Brown he also wants a new Benz"

[konsalik]

Originally Posted by Skhotha

It is always good to hear that one is making sense in ones observations, thanks. I always consider my self blessed, even through the challenges that we face in this beautiful country. I do engage my neighbours & friends about where we are going as a country and this "xenophobic era" is no different. There are some people who do have such tendencies but they are in the minority. I will concede that maybe we are talking to completetly different sets of people but I have the blessing/ curse of working on the road. I live in a township during the week and in the capital city of KZN on the weekends, a sort of self imposed migrant worker in reverse So, as you can see, I see a broad spectrum of my South African brothers and sisters on a regular basis. BUT I hear your point that we must take the good with the bad BUT lets treat criminals alike I mean all robbers rob behind the shield of hunger. Why don't we cuddle them and say " Ag shame poor Mr Brown he also wants a new Benz"

I did not say that all people are participating in this atrocity. The problem however lies in the fact that although this was started by mere criminals it is snowballing and is pulling in more and more people as they become hyped up by others. I am sure you have seen situations where a handfull of people start something that eventually grow and later involves hundreds of people. What I am afraid of is that this xenophobia is going to grow to such proportions that the government will not be able to control it, something needs to be done about the situation and something needs to be done right now. Before it is to late.

[Som-pride]

Listen! I know this is not all South Africans, but they have been quit about it and trying to duck it under the rug, specially the government!
they just acknowledging it! and this was the first demonstration against the xenophobia that south africans did -but this was going for years!

Where will you go tomorrow if something happens in South Africa? ppl won't welcome you!

What about the World Cup? you have hundreds of thousands of ppl trying to come there to watch the world cup in a couple years --but how will I feel save there if foreigners and immigrants have no rights!
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the government should clean the streets, put alot of police on the road, do detective investigation and arrest the leaders behind this, there are ppl funding this who are behind this, some business ppl who aren't happy with the competition! Somalis think its Indian business men who paid crimminals to drive Somalis out of business --but we don't know!
the police need to do there work, and investigate, not just arrest a couple ppl--because it won't stop if you don't hit it from top down!

[Moonwalker]

Originally Posted by Som-pride

Listen! I know this is not all South Africans, but they have been quit about it and trying to duck it under the rug, specially the government!
they just acknowledging it! and this was the first demonstration against the xenophobia that south africans did -but this was going for years!

Where will you go tomorrow if something happens in South Africa? ppl won't welcome you!

What about the World Cup? you have hundreds of thousands of ppl trying to come there to watch the world cup in a couple years --but how will I feel save there if foreigners and immigrants have no rights!
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the government should clean the streets, put alot of police on the road, do detective investigation and arrest the leaders behind this, there are ppl funding this who are behind this, some business ppl who aren't happy with the competition! Somalis think its Indian business men who paid crimminals to drive Somalis out of business --but we don't know!
the police need to do there work, and investigate, not just arrest a couple ppl--because it won't stop if you don't hit it from top down!

Hey Som
Your profile states that you live in America....are you South African? Somalian? or just another American TROLL who knows nothing about South Africa, and debates by, on what he reads in the press?

Also get your facts straight.....
LEGAL visiting foreigners, and LEGAL immigrants have full civil rights, and are very welcome to SA, as it brings in revenue and added skills

Arrive legally.. and we'll see you at the World Cup