This might sound silly.......

[Karagatho]

I think its best if one was to take your interpretations
from a translation that is closest to the Origonal
Torah, for the old testament, the new testament was
however written by Men who each made their own opinion
of how a person should live so I can not rely on it.
the differences between the Apostles messages are too
apparent for me ,some require exacting standards while
others require only the resonable standards..

I think why I'm here is to witness the Incredible ways
in which everyday people can interpret the Bible , they
can stretch it to encompass almost any Sin and get the
words to mean almost anything, yet if you look at how they
do it ,its nuts! ,they read a sentence out of a paragraph
ignore the rest of the paragraph ,take it out of context
an proclaim a new meaning, and people don't go back and
verify this , they just accept it! ,I mean look at the old
Eye for an eye thing!

Then you get the old ,rely on the holy spirit to make you
speak wisdom! so many people end up hurting their
own beliefs by this, I've seen it over and over,I don't know
why the spirit is not with them ,but mostly it isn't and
they get argued into the ground for it by people who
definitely hold no beliefs in God or Jesus, I can't
help but think that's what made you paste those quotes!

Think about this ,soon the Anti-Christ will be apon us,it
is fortold in so many places that it is imminent, if he
appears then surely Jesus must be real ? and all that is
fortold will come to pass ? and the Lamb that was slain
and rose again in Revelation will be Jesus?
Revelation is from the Torah isn't it ?
Hey! wait a minute ,this might be the proof I'm looking for
(Need to check this up ,bye.........)

Blast! Nope is jast has Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy in it

This is useless! I think I'm going to Quit the Internet
now ,its just brought me trouble
At least I know what to expect now, Oh well, hope you
guys find your paths ,I'm out of here ! Goodbye!

[Edited by Karagatho on 12th June 2003 at 13:09]

[Tiger32]

I disagree, but you can believe as you wish.

[Edited by Tiger32 on 12th June 2003 at 19:00]

[Jaybang]

Look at this..

all these people of the same faith, following the same god, are arguing over each ones interpretation of this book..

And further more look at the people claiming to be christians..lol the most opinionated, and judgemental people on the whole forum... but then this is typical.

[Tiger32]

Originally posted by thiswoundedsoul

And no, Tiger, you are not 'saved.' In time you may be, but presently you are racist, homophobic, and you believe in murder. Christ opposes all three.

Fortunately, I was saved by the blood of Yeshua, and not by a racist homosexual such as yourself. My salvation does not rest on you, and as much as it disturbs you that Christ was a black man, when he walked this earth, I am sure it disturbs you even more that he saved my life.

And there is nothing that you or anyone else in this forum can do to take it away. Because you did not give me this free gift of salvation, and you are powerless to take it away.

I thank God for his saving power!

[itchy8me]

"all these people of the same faith, following the same god, are arguing over each ones interpretation of this book.. "

the problem is Jaybang that the bible is literal, that means, it does not need to be inerpretated. but then you get people who go and read a million other books thinking they will find wisdom and new truths that are not in the bible, and they then no longer believe the truth is rooted in the bible, following other myths and stories.

they are interpretating not one book, but substituting there own opinions and other "wisdom" for the word of God, that is the collection of books inspired by God in people that has been put together and been called the holy bible.

sorry if i've judged you bro.

*i am a witness to the coming of the end of ages*

[itchy8me]

see what i mean
but yes you are right in that wounded. Jesus is the word of God.

[Edited by itchy8me on 13th June 2003 at 22:52]

[Tiger32]

Originally posted by thiswoundedsoul

I do not understand why fundamentalists are fundamentalist. On what basis do they decide the Bible is all literal? Where does the Bible say that? It doesn't. A lazy-minded and passive person will say 'it's all literally true' because, perhaps, he doesn't want to do the work in seeping through allegory, historical events, and hidden meaning.

You don't seem to understand very much do you?

But your biggest mistake is to reject the Bible, even the skeptics have acknowledged that it is one of the most accurate documents from a historical perspective.

Many of our laws are derived from Bible's moral standards.