This might sound silly.......

[buttercup]

If god is all loving then why would he reject a human who has led a good life, from heaven just because they didn't belive in him? and then on the other hand some one who has murdered before can be accepted into heaven aslong as they realise their mistakes and ask for forgivness and accept god into thier heart. love is unconditional that means you can not take it back. If god loved all "his Children" then he would accept everyone in to heaven and there would be no hell. If there was such thing as a god and this was true I would excommunicate my self in protest and go to hell. but I don't belive their is a god because this way of thinking is too human it's vain and vengefull I'm reminded of grade two when kids would say "'ll invite you to my brithdayparty if you invite me to yours" It's just a power trip. Please no biblical quotes they prove nothing to me, if you have an answer then tell me in your own words.

-SARA

[Tiger32]

Originally posted by buttercup

If god is all loving then why would he reject a human who has led a good life, from heaven just because they didn't belive in him? and then on the other hand some one who has murdered before can be accepted into heaven aslong as they realise their mistakes and ask for forgivness and accept god into thier heart. love is unconditional that means you can not take it back. If god loved all "his Children" then he would accept everyone in to heaven and there would be no hell. If there was such thing as a god and this was true I would excommunicate my self in protest and go to hell. but I don't belive their is a god because this way of thinking is too human it's vain and vengefull I'm reminded of grade two when kids would say "'ll invite you to my brithdayparty if you invite me to yours" It's just a power trip. Please no biblical quotes they prove nothing to me, if you have an answer then tell me in your own words.

-SARA

Isaiah 53 shows how evil mankind is, inspite of this evil nature, God gave all mankind an oppurtunity at redemption. If mankind rejects his son, then God will reject mankind. Instead of trying to make excuses, mankind must seize the oppurtunity of redemption through Christ. Here is an example of how Christ suffered on our behalf:

Isaiah 53:
1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?

2 For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.

3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.

4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.

5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

7 He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.

8 He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.

9 And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.

10 Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

12 Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

[buttercup]

I see so god created evil humans and decided he loved them all but those who don't accept him will suffer for eternity
I still think i would rather regect this god you speak of it seems to unfair to me. I can say proudly if there is a god like this I will burn in hell!

-SARA

[Tiger32]

Originally posted by buttercup
I see so god created evil humans and decided he loved them all but those who don't accept him will suffer for eternity
I still think i would rather regect this god you speak of it seems to unfair to me. I can say proudly if there is a god like this I will burn in hell!

-SARA

God created mankind and gave them a free will. God wrote his laws so that mankind could discern between good and evil. But unfortunately, mankind has chosen the side of evil in many cases.

[buttercup]

Lets says for a second that your God is real and what you say about chosing between good and evil is true. would you say I'm evil because I do not accept God? I have been the international projects director in a club for 3 years at my highschool I have arranged efforts to send money over to India for wells that were desperatley needed I have aranged for 500 school kits to be sent through an orgaization to third world countries, a long with many other community projects i have headed in my school, with the Barrie North Ineract Club, on top of that I am an active member of my comunity in many ways. I donate as much money as I can to organizations such as world christian fund and worldwildlife fund to name a few. I know i have sins but i am human and although I'm no saint i do as much as I can to help out this world. I do not consider my self evil, but then again I don't belive in god. It is because i try so hard to be a good person that I find it hard to belive in a god that would send me to hell because I was not a beliver, despite the fact that I am living a good life. I know devote christians who go to chuch every sunday rain or shine sick or well, but they do nothing in the community to help out and they tell me they feel sorry for me that I will not be saved. All I can say is that I feel sorry that they have not lived I get so much joy in helping others I wish everyone could expeirience this felling. Please don't take offence anyone I'm not generalizing about what christians or catholics or any other religous groups are like I'm just comenting on my own experiences.

-SARA

[Tiger32]

Originally posted by buttercup
Lets says for a second that your God is real and what you say about chosing between good and evil is true. would you say I'm evil because I do not accept God?

-SARA

Absolutely! Only God can cleanse one from unrightousness. Anyone who does not accept Yeshua will burn in hell.

[Jaybang]

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