Need advice

[krymyhier]

Jaybang...

I think the reason why SB-Angel is stating the facts is the following:

In order to change something, you have to know the true state/nature of that entity before you can do anything to/about it.

If a person realizes and admits to itself that it is an idiot, the person can set out to improve itself. Before the person does not face the facts the person will not grow…

SB-Angel:The country needs to face itself and see it for what it is – then only can the country set out to improve itself.

Those who sweep the truth under the carpet do so because the burden of growth is too much.

[Jaybang]

Actually most of us are fully aware of the facts. Do you think we sit here and deny what’s happening? No we don’t. People will choose to show the facts that best suit there motive.

Many people who leave SA to live abroad try to make themselves feel better about there decision so they harp on only about the facts that validate there decision.

We are not ignorant of the facts but try putting them all into context, add to these facts the positive achievements over the last ten years. I am in SA now and I have never in all my trips home seen as much positive progress been made as there is now. This country is going places and its not down.

Now the topics are about how the strengthening of the rand has a negative impact.. ha ha.. i mean how funny is that.

People here are positive, they are excited.. and trust me they are not ignorant to the countries problems.

[krymyhier]

Jaybang….

If you stand close enough to a square or a circle you will only see a line…

People do justify there ideas and thoughts - either that or they accept their insanity.

This brings me back to my other post:

Man's problem is that he thinks he can distinguish between what is good and what is evil.

It is ironic that this was the same concept that brought man to become aware of himself – ironically becoming aware of the self, translate to becoming selfish.

This was called original sin….

We are still paying the price of it.

Till love opens not our eyes, to realize that our knowledge and well planned strategies are the seeds that keep up from discovering that beauty of the ignorance that we gave up in search of something better, we will suffer at our own accord.

We are the most knowledgeable idiots.

What is right and acceptable for one person might be wrong and unacceptable for another. You can not get around this.


The matter of the fact is – Do I want to be here?
Surely I have the right to say this is how I experience it – I did not state this is how it is. Can anyone for that matter give and objective viewpoint of how it is ?

So – we are all victims of that which made our psyche to be what is.

[Jaybang]

krymyhier,

Im not sure what you mean by "Becoming aware of ones self translates to becoming selfish" , can you elaborate on that, because I dont quite agree in the sence that I read it.

What is "ones self" that you are refering to? When I am in a state of awareness, the last thing I can be is selfish. To be in a state of awareness is to be aware of ones senses in the present moment.

Ever heard the phrase "I am not that which I can observe".
Well it speaks for itself. If you can observe your body, if you can observe or be aware of your thoughts and feelings, then what exactly are you if you are able to observe them / be aware of them? For me, when I focus my attention instead of letting my attention be captured, my sense of awareness and of who i am increases, this sense of awareness grows outwards to include my suroundings, and it can keep expanding. I can tell you something, at times like these I feel more conected to the universe, then simply becoming selfish and self consumed.

Maybe being aware of ones self has different meaning to both of us.

[krymyhier]

Jaybang…

Maybe we have different ideas to what ‘A’-’a’-wareness relates to.

Simply put what I am saying is that someone who is not aware of his own existence would not be clouded by his own personal subjective ideas. When one can not be subjective you can only be objective, therefore the experiences of such an entity is the only experiences that truly describes the universe as it is.

We think that awareness relates to knowing that I exist. Does it ?
Can we really know anything while our interpretations are clouded by our own definitions of the truth.

I speak of the self(awareness) and the Self(Awareness)

The Self with a capital ‘S’ relates to the part in our consciousness which ties to the pure objective experience – some relate to this as super-consciousness, or as C.G Jung said – the collective consciousness. It is pure, accurate and objective. It is the seat of knowledge. The word ‘I’ does not exist in this context because the Self binds everything together as a singular entity. All that exist is the Self. The Self merely exist. It need not prove anything to ItSelf in order to give value to ItSelf. It simply is.
‘A’wareness is a state of being, a knowing that in the infinite everything is a possibility. With ‘A’wareness there will be different opinions but it would be known that each opinion is only a finite idea that is entertained until a new finite idea replaces it. Opinions does not define the truth but they are part of the truth.
With the Self politics is dead.

The self with a lowercase ‘s’ relates to our personal interpretation of our experiences.
We use each experience in life, interpret it against a stored reference (which we call memory), we decide that this experience was a good(enjoyable)experience with possible good(enjoyable) repercussions OR we decide that this was a bad(evil, un-enjoyable) experience with possible bad(evil, un-enjoyable) repercussions.
This self defines itself as something separate. The self perceives that it exists separately and it does not fully realize that every action it takes influence the entire universe. Therefore this self is by nature selfish because it will have as an objective the primary goal to preserve itself. It has to measure itself to everything else to give value to itself. The self needs to define itself separately.
Then ‘a’wareness is the ability to experience, to interpret, and to define the truth. With ‘a’wareness there will be different opinions and people will believe that certain opinions hold more truth than others, there will be conflict.
With the self politics is alive.


Maybe this shed some light on how I perceive things to be.
But then – Do I have the ability to know things for what they are ?
This is an idea.
That is all that it is.
It does not hold truth – It can not.
It exists in truth therefore if you disagree – I agree to disagree.

We are part of something which has more common ground than differences.