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    Mugabe is Right, Whites Must Give Up the Land!
    by Koigi Wamwere




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    Today, Europeans own almost all the land in the Americas, almost all the good land in Australia, New Zealand, and Tasmania, and most of the best land in many African countries like South Africa, Zimbabwe, and Kenya. To acquire this land outside Europe, Europeans did not use law, justice or money.
    They took it with the gun.

    But the West does not want Africans to mention either this fact, or the fact that white people are wrong in wanting to own all the land and everything else in Africa.

    And the West is the champion of free speech in the world!

    When Africans in Kenya, South Africa, Zimbabwe and elsewhere fought for their independence, it meant two things to them - land and freedom. But when Europe conceded independence to African countries it was self-rule without land and freedom.

    And so most Africans continue to be landless while Europeans continue to own millions and millions of hectares of the best land in Africa.

    In Kenya, 10 percent of the population, both black and white farmers, owns 73 percent of all arable land. In South Africa, 16 percent of the population, made up of whites, owns 87 percent of all arable land. And in Zimbabwe, 4,500 white farmers - or a mere .03 percent of a population of 13 million Africans - own 12 million hectares or 73 percent of all arable land.

    The African majority in South Africa, Zimbabwe and Kenya live under this situation not because they like it or because it is right, moral, fair or just, but only because they are powerless to change it.

    There can be no greater proof of lack of independence for, say, Zimbabwe, than this situation where a mere .03 percent is allowed to own 73 percent of all arable land, totally control the nation's agriculture, and own half the country's economy.

    Mugabe is a great freedom fighter who fought for the independence of his country but at the behest of the West turned his back on socialism and stayed too long in power. At last, Mugabe has realised that he too is a victim of neo-colonialism and has decided not just to say "no" to the West but to redistribute land in his own country.

    Whatever Mugabe's past mistakes, we must agree that on this one question of finally redistributing African land to African people, he is 100 percent right. Mugabe's only fault is that he took too long to do it.

    But now that he is finally doing it, all people who believe in fairness and justice must support him.

    From what one hears from CNN, BBC and other Western news media, the West stands as one against Mugabe. They accuse him of violating the spirit of reconciliation, and perpetrating racism against white people in Zimbabwe.

    Rather than prove anything against Mugabe, the West's accusations only prove how little it thinks of Africans' right to own anything or have meaningful independence.

    Could one even imagine a situation in which 4,500 Zimbabwean Africans were allowed to own 12 million hectares of land in Britain, France or any other country in Europe?

    The West also accuses Mugabe of violating the spirit of reconciliation between white colonisers and black colonised that was agreed upon at the time of independence. But did this reconciliation mean that colonisers would continue to own everything they had grabbed before independence, and that the Africans who had been robbed of everything would continue to own nothing?

    Finally, the very West that is restoring all the money, properties and works of art that it stole from the Jewish people and paying reparations for all the slave labour Jewish people did during the Second World War, is asking that colonial white farmers be paid compensation by Africans.

    The British government admits that at the time of independence it made a promise which it never kept, to provide the money necessary to buy out the white farmers. Now it claims that the reason for its failure to keep its own promise is Mugabe's mismanagement of Zimbabwean economy. But the real reason is the British desire that the Zimbabwean and African economies be controlled by British companies and British citizens. What then must Africans do? Starve to death until the British agree to keep their promises?

    I am truly surprised at the clamour that I hear for British farmers to be compensated for any loss of land in Zimbabwe. Between Africans who have been working for starvation wages on white farms and white farmers who have made millions of pounds out of their colonial ownership of land in Zimbabwe, it is the white farmers who should compensate Africans.

    Africans are entitled to recover their stolen lands from white farmers. And the West has a moral duty to pay not just compensation to white farmers who will lose land, but to pay reparations to Africans now for all the millions of people they killed and kidnapped from Africa during the slave trade. What is good for the Jewish goose is good for the African gander.

    Rule of law must mean rule of just law. Sooner or later, colonial wrongs must be corrected all over Africa. And they will not be corrected by substituting white robbers with black robbers. Colonial injustice will be corrected by giving land and freedom not only to Africans in power and government, but to all the people to whom God gave land.

    Whether leaders like Moi like it or not, today it is Zimbabwe, tomorrow it will be Kenya, the day after it will be South Africa, and after that it will be the entire continent. The river of freedom and justice is unstoppable.

    If white and black people of Africa are to live peacefully in future, the West must stop imposing white people as saviours of black people using arguments that in effect paint white citizens of Africa as either more able technically or less corrupt morally.

    Going by the opposition from the West, Mugabe may not survive this war against neo-colonialism. But he is right, and he is bearing the standard for all Africans. Should he fall, other Africans must take up the mantle and fight on to victory.


  • #2
    Funny how you should choose a piece of propaganda written by the Kenyan politician / ex convict, ZANU-PF supporter...

    Have you been in touch with Jonathan Moyo lately by any chance?

    I suggest you go and read the Freedom Charter published in the early 1950's. It states quite clearly: SOuth Africa belongs to all who live in it...

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    • #3
      I have to side with Mugabe, because I am certain that he is right on this issue. I had the oppurtunity to hear the Zimbabwe U.N. Abassador speak at great length on this subject, and I am inclined to side with him on this matter.

      [Edited by Tiger32 on 8th May 2002 at 00:30]

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      • #4
        If you knew anything about the situation in Zim you would know that it IS NOT about land. It is about Mugabe clinging to power. His supporters have killed hundreds of black (because that's what matters to you) opposition supporters according to SA Human Rights Watch. Have you not heard of the poor black woman who was beheadeded in front of her children last week? He also murdered thousands in the Matabele massacres in the 80's, this is just one more tactic.

        WHite Zim farmers tried time and again to organise a peaceful redistribution. The agreement which Mugape renegaded btw him and Britain signed in Lagos last year would have secured funding for peaceful redistribution. His renegations should have dispelled any illusions that he was fighting for land.

        He has also started evicting squatters and started to hand over farms to high ranking politicians - EXACTLY why Britain stopped funding land redistribution in Zim years ago.

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        • #5
          Actually, I know quite a bit about the situation in Zimbabwe, but I disagree with your rhetoric. I know you like so many other Europeans, do not want to see blacks get this land. Because you know that South Africa is next, and you cannot deal with this reality, therefore you must try to cloud the issues. But the bottom line is this, blacks will get this land which is rightfully theirs, and there is nothing that you can do about it! So my suggestion to you is to get over it, and move on with your life, because blacks have patiently waited long enough, but now is the time to reclaim this land! As for the atrocities, obviously I do not agree with them. But the focus of the African is to get back the land which is rightfully theirs. You will have the oppurtunity to see Africans reclaim this land during your lifetime. First in Zimbabwe, then in South Africa and other parts of the continent. I know you probably did not think that SA would ever have a Black President.

          To put it in perpsective, it happened to someone, whom you and other White South Africans have labled a convict. But to people around the world, Nelson Mandela was never a convict, but rather, a victim of racism. This is the same spirit of racism that is trying to prevent blacks from reclaiming their land. Needless to say, this will be unsuccessful, because blacks have already started reclaiming this land. And despite your rhetoric, you are powerless to stop this!

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          • #6
            Racist assumptions.

            "I know you like so many other Europeans, do not want to see blacks get this land. "

            You presume rather to liberally, no doubt blinded by racial contempt and conspiracy theories. If this is about land, tell me why did Mugabe renegade on the deal brokered by President Obasanjo last year in Lagos which secured funding from Britain?
            Why is he evicting the squatters and giving farms to loyal politicians.....?

            Rhetoric - maybe, truth definitely.

            And how do you know what I thought and now think of Nelson Mandela?

            I understood the cause of NM, but he would have been jailed for treason in any country in the world. He did plot to kill people and blow up government installations after all. The fact that he came out of prison without bitterness, when it would have been so easy to be bitter proves that he is a great leader. Between him and de Klerk, ,much bloodshed was avoided in SA.

            Just so you feel slightly better, South Africa has a peaceful land redistribution programme, which I support.

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            • #7
              Tiger 32
              just a quick question. Where do you live? (country only)I just want to understand your views.

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              • #8
                Tiger32 smokes weed

                Tiger32: I have read a lot of responses on this forum and I must congratulate you on consistently being the life of the party. What would this forum be without your idiotic postings? It would probably degenerate into a lot of boring intellectual discussions.

                Are you really an "African American"? I expected Americans to be generally less ignorant. I am a South African, you know, one of those fair-skinned types that you claim might be citizens of SA but will never be African. I hate to break this to you: I AM an African - and you will never be.

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                • #9
                  after reading the original post a 2nd time..... according to Tiger's theory, he and all non-native americans, should up and leave and go back to where they came from........ all non native Germans in Germany should up and leave and go back to where they came from..... does that sound a bit like Adolf Hitler?

                  Actually we should take it even further. If your parents were from a small village in the south east of Italy then that is where you should go back to.... right to the same house where they were born and stay there... don't even move to another block.....

                  And to take it even further back, we should find out the exact location of our great, great, great, great, great....... great x 10000, parents cave and go move to there...... real smart! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

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                  • #10
                    Tiger


                    Whether leaders like Moi like it or not, today it is Zimbabwe, tomorrow it will be Kenya, the day after it will be South Africa, and after that it will be the entire continent. The river of freedom and justice is unstoppable.


                    You are so right Tiger, so right! Except it was Kenya first, and most of Africa north of the equator. Once there was a semblance of order under the colonialist, even if they did bring with them racism. One by one the northern countries received their independence – and became free! And with their new found freedom came poverty, and hunger.
                    Get one thing straight right now, I emphatically denounce apartheid and racism, it is an evil born out of the twisted minds of people who think they are better than others. But reality speaks for itself.
                    Twenty two years ago Rhodesia was labouring under intensive sanctions placed on it by just about every country in the world. Yet you could walk into shops and buy your food, even some chocolates if you wanted. Petrol was rationed, yet they had relatively free movement. They were relatively safe in their houses even though they were busy fighting a bitter war against terrorism. This same war was costing them over a million Rhodesian dollars a day!
                    Mugabe won the elections and Zimbabwe was free at last. The war ended, sanctions ended, aid came streaming in, petrol was freely available.
                    Twenty two years later? People are living in abject poverty. In the southern parts hundreds are dying from hunger. In the main centers there is no petrol, no diesel, no paraffin, and NO food in the shopping centers, and you can trade your US$ for about Zim$250.
                    You see Tiger, freedom come with a lot of baggage, this baggage is called responsibility. Justice? Sure, let justice be done, get rid of the white farmers, get rid of the whites who still have a bit of power. And maybe at the same time, while you’re at it, get rid of the tarred roads, the railways, the airports, the dams, the schools, the telecommunications, radio, TV, the hospitals, the clinics, the postal service. You see, these are all just reminders of our colonial oppressors; we don’t want to be reminded of their culture and who needs all this anyway?
                    So yes Tiger, you are right, it’s Zimbabwe today, maybe the next one will be South Africa, and soon all of Africa will be FREE!!

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                    • #11
                      Now For The Truth

                      Since its independence, Zimbabwe's government has constructed hundreds of needed hospitals, nearly doubled the number of primary schools to 4,500, increased secondary schools from 177 to 1,548, teacher training colleges from 4 to 15, universities from 1 to 8 (Zimbabwe now has the highest literacy rate in Africa at 85%), piped water schemes from 26 to 520 and dams from 121 to 2,438. Actually, a considerable amount of information which places Zimbabwe in a much more favorable light, is not being disseminated by Western news sources.

                      After the fact finding team held discussions with a wide range of Zimbabweans, which included landless peasants, white and black farmers, government officials, media representatives, war veterans and President Mugabe himself, they determined that;

                      1) the primary two reasons for Western hostility, unfair reporting and sanctions against Zimbabwe are President Mugabe's determination to return land to Indigenous African peasants, who are its rightful owners; and Zimbabwe's intervention in Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), at the request of its legitimate government, to repel Western-sponsored aggressors. Zimbabwe's timely dispatching of troops to the DRC, whose numbers rose to 12,000 during the peak of the conflict, helped to prevent the recolonization of the richest country in Africa.

                      2) land reform has been ongoing for the past four years and 360,000 families, which include the opposition, have received land. Many white farms are unusually large and range between 3000 and 20,000 hectares, while an average family-owned farm in the U.S. is between 200 and 250 hectares. Three members of Britain's House of Lords own land in Zimbabwe. Some white farms are not even listed in Zimbabwe's national records and the Opppenheimer Ranch is 300,000 hectares. However, the vast majority of black peasants must eke out an existence in "rural areas" on land that is rocky, poor and arid. Seventy-five percent of Zimbabwe's food is produced by black farmers, including sixty percent of its maize or corn, which is the country's staple crop.

                      3) the coming food shortages and "famine", which Zimbabwe's detractors have connected to the land reform program, have no relationship to each other at all. The anticipated food shortage is being produced by a regional drought that is undermining crop production in a number of countries. In truth, droughts, which are cyclical in the region and occur every ten years, are a fact of life. While death from starvation has occurred in the neighboring countries of Zambia and Malawi, no Zimbabweans have died. Despite very limited resources, Zimbabwe has gotten itself through food crises quite admirably.

                      4) white farmers in Zimbabwe are being permitted to keep one farm and are being compensated for all capital improvements on land reclaimed by the government. Exceptions to this rule are farms which are in excess of permissable acreage, idle or under-utilized farms and farms next to communal lands. Some farmers own as many as 7 and 8 farms. African laborers on white farms are treated poorly and receive inadequate pay. Ian Smith, who lead white resistance to the black independence struggle, pays black laborers on his farm $4,300 Zim dollars ($72 US) per month and crowds them into one room hovels which lack electricity and other necessities. During the current phase of land reform, defiant white farmers have been arrested, but there has been no violence and no farmer has been forced out.

                      5) some white farmers, resentful after receiving section 8 notices to surrender their farms to the government, are poisoning the soil with herbicides, poisoning livestock, destroying maize crop, blocking boreholes (wells), setting wildfires and commiting other forms of sabotage.

                      6) Zimbabwe's presidential elections in March, which saw President Mugabe returned to office, were declared "free and fair" by monitors from several African countries and the African Union. Since independence more than 20 political parties have operated in the country, including the MDC which is openly supported by white farmers, Britain and others opposed to the present government. Zimbabwe's election outcome stands in sharp contrast to the U.S. presidential election where thousands of black votes in Florida, which favored Bush's opponent, were thrown out.

                      For Zimbabwe's Indigenous population the land redistribution struggle represents the "Third Chimurenga". The first was the courageous yet unsuccessful 1890's resistance against white colonizers, and the second was the liberation struggle, won at a cost of more than 50,000 lives, which led to independence in 1980. In his book titled "British Betrayal of the Africans - Land, Cattle and Human Rights", Zimbabwean historian Aeneas Chigwedere writes, "thousands of Africans were killed, maimed and tortured in 1893, 1896-97, 1900-1904 and between 1970 and 1980; the Africans were impoverished and starved by the seizures of their cattle, goats, sheep and crops by an illegal regime; Africans were denied the necessary health facilities and continued to be decimated by the common tropical diseases; the Africans were denied education facilities and toiled as hewers of wood and drawers of water for the white man... I have a fair picture of the histories of all the former European colonies in Africa. I cannot find a single colony that was treated as mercilessly and as ruthlessly as Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)". And then there is this observation by Mr. Chigwedere," Judging from their performance in Africa, the British are undoubtedly the worst racists that have existed on the face of the earth".

                      Perhaps the fact finding delegation's most memorable meeting was with President Robert Mugabe. The meeting lasted nearly two hours as the president outlined the land issue and responded to our questions. Yet another meeting with Dr. Olivia Muchena, Minister of State with responsibility for monitoring the land reform program, provided us with additional insights into the land question. Dr. Muchena described how Western education contradicts traditional African values by making it clear that " when white people took the land, they disqualified themselves from being human, because they had done an inhuman act. They (the white people) took what belonged to God -- a form of sacrilege if you like".

                      Dr. Muchena then said, "the land is not a commodity. It cannot be bought and sold. The land is the sum total of who we are as human beings. This fundamental belief is at the core of our tenacity and the courage that you see in our president".

                      The government of Namibia, which firmly supports Zimbabwe, recently announced plans to expropriate 192 farms in its territory. Namibia's congress noted in a resolution"that it was concerned at the slow pace of land redistribution, which has the potential to cause civil strife". Namibia and its sprawling next door neighbor South Africa, each have land hungry populations whose patience has worn thin. Namibia's President Sam Nujoma, responding on one occasion to white claims of land ownership asked " so how much land did the white man bring to Africa?".

                      In an editorial appropriately captioned "The end of Rhode's dream", a European newspaper opposed to Zimbabwe's land reform program, sadly recalled how "Cecil Rhodes imperial dream to move north from the Cape into the uncharted interior of Africa, exploiting its mineral wealth and introducing settlement", had come to an end. Rhode's dream to have whites dominate and exploit Africans "from the Cape to Cairo" has been Africa's long nightmare. Africa belongs to its people, and not to others, whose home is elsewhere! Zimbabwe is on the threshold of restoring stolen land to its rightful Indigenous owners. We must have no illusions about what is at stake here. The principled, defiant and resolute stand taken by President Mugabe and the Zimbabwean nation has shaken the imperialist world at its foundations. Restoring the land to the people is what Kenya's Land Freedom Army, disparagingly referred to as the Mau Mau, sought to achieve. Retaking the land has been the cornerstone of the fight for independence in every part of the African continent, if not the world. There are many who can recall how one of our greatest revolutionaries, Malcolm X, during his speech titled "Message to the Grassroots" said "revolution is based on land... the landless against the landlord ...land is the basis of independence".

                      Allow me to end this article with words spoken by President Robert Mugabe, words which drew sustained applause, during his historic August 12 Heroes Day Commemoration speech at National Heroes Acre. National Heroes Acre is a shrine and the final resting place for Zimbabwe's martyrs. "We are a child that imperialism would never have wanted to see born, one it would have rather scotched and quashed in the belly than see born. We emerge from circumstances of a resolute liberation struggle and thus carry a stamp of stolid, defiant protest. We do not kowtow to erstwhile imperialist forces with avid appetites for the control and manipulation of our lives and destiny and the continued exploitation of our wealth and resources". President Mugabe went on to point out that the process of retaking Indigenous land settles "the grievance of all grievances" that Zimbabweans would "not be deterred on this one question" and that "the land is ours"!

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                      • #12
                        Tiger,
                        Yes, it definitely seems as if Mugabe’s propaganda is working, at least with some people.

                        ((Since its independence, Zimbabwe's government has constructed hundreds of needed hospitals, nearly doubled the number of primary schools to 4,500, increased secondary schools from 177 to 1,548, teacher training colleges from 4 to 15, universities from 1 to 8 (Zimbabwe now has the highest literacy rate in Africa at 85%), piped water schemes from 26 to 520 and dams from 121 to 2,438. Actually, a considerable amount of information which places Zimbabwe in a much more favorable light, is not being disseminated by Western news sources.))

                        Who paid for the alleged ‘hundreds of needed hospitals, primary schools, colleges and universities’? Most certainly aid from numerous countries after the sanctions had been lifted, and not from the government itself. Sure I believe the Zimbabweans probably have the highest literacy rate in Africa. The Zimbabwean people are a hardworking people and the education system is second to none, thanks to the British legacy.
                        In 1988 I had to rush a good friend to a hospital in Marondera Zimbabwe. He received less than adequate treatment, in conditions that were not just poor but downright pathetic. He recovered in a ward that was designed for six people. There were twenty-six people in that ward! This same hospital had just eight years previously been in pristine condition.

                        ((After the fact finding team held discussions with a wide range of Zimbabweans, which included landless peasants, white and black farmers, government officials, media representatives, war veterans and President Mugabe himself, they determined that;

                        1) the primary two reasons for Western hostility, unfair reporting and sanctions against Zimbabwe are President Mugabe's determination to return land to Indigenous African peasants, who are its rightful owners; and Zimbabwe's intervention in Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), at the request of its legitimate government, to repel Western-sponsored aggressors. Zimbabwe's timely dispatching of troops to the DRC, whose numbers rose to 12,000 during the peak of the conflict, helped to prevent the recolonization of the richest country in Africa.))

                        Rightful owners? Does he have any proof? Does he think that the peasants who used to occupy the land prior to the white man’s arrival had been permanent residents there since BC? Richest country in Africa? Rich in untapped resources maybe, but definitely far from rich economically. Mugabe should rather have spent his money looking after his own people.

                        ((2 land reform has been ongoing for the past four years and 360,000 families, which include the opposition, have received land. Many white farms are unusually large and range between 3000 and 20,000 hectares, while an average family-owned farm in the U.S. is between 200 and 250 hectares. Three members of Britain's House of Lords own land in Zimbabwe. Some white farms are not even listed in Zimbabwe's national records and the Oppenheimer Ranch is 300,000 hectares. However, the vast majority of black peasants must eke out an existence in "rural areas" on land that is rocky, poor and arid. Seventy-five percent of Zimbabwe's food is produced by black farmers, including sixty percent of its maize or corn, which is the country's staple crop.))

                        What is never mentioned is the hundreds of thousands of farm workers who are now the homeless and unemployed.
                        Sure, the farms are large; they also used to be productive. Let me give some examples. My father in law had a large farm at Headlands. He had 2000 head of cattle, a dairy, and had pigs. After his death my mother in law had no option but to sell the farm to the government. Now that land has been resettled by a couple of thousand ‘homeless’ people. These settlers do subsistence farming, which means they only grow crops to feed themselves, and therefore contribute absolutely nothing to the country’s food needs. So one very productive farm became a squatter camp, of no use to the country except for providing a home!
                        My brother in law was a dairy manager at a large dairy farm to the east of Harare. This farm supplied large quantities of milk to the capital every day. On this farm was a village for the workers and a school, built and run by the farm owners. This farm was taken over by so called ‘homeless’ people and virtually overnight the dairy closed, the school became living space and a couple of hundred workers were driven off the farm; they are now homeless and unemployed and another farm has became totally unproductive.
                        Most of the farms being taken over are being occupied by ‘war veterans’, not homeless people. This in itself is controversial because some of those ‘war vets’ were not even born yet at the time of the ‘second Chimurenga.
                        I know of a couple of black farmers who are doing sterling work. I take my hat off to them because it will be the likes of them, and not the ‘homeless’ or ‘war vets’, who will be producing the food in the future. These black farmers will admit to anyone who asks that they learned how to farm from the whites. When my mother in law left her farm she left behind, on a separate farm, a black farmer who was taught how to farm by my father in law. Today he is a successful farmer.
                        I don’t know where you got those figures of the black farmers producing 75% of the food! However, I do agree that it probably is correct right at this moment. Most white farmers have either had their farms taken away from them, or have left the country before it happens to them as well. Hence the distinct empty shelves at the supermarkets! I would hazard a guess and say that 99% of the black farmers who do produce the 75% are established farmers and not ‘homeless’ or ‘war vets’ who have taken over white farms. Tiger, tell me why, within a matter of two or three years, Zimbabwe has turned from a country that used to export food, to a country that has to import food?

                        ((3 the coming food shortages and "famine", which Zimbabwe's detractors have connected to the land reform program, have no relationship to each other at all. The anticipated food shortage is being produced by a regional drought that is undermining crop production in a number of countries. In truth, droughts, which are cyclical in the region and occur every ten years, are a fact of life. While death from starvation has occurred in the neighboring countries of Zambia and Malawi, no Zimbabweans have died. Despite very limited resources, Zimbabwe has gotten itself through food crises quite admirably.))

                        What a load of cods wallop! Yes we have always had these cyclical droughts throughout southern Africa, and yes we have always managed to survive. This time it is different! There is no food, as simple as that! Tell this yarn to the thousands who turn away from shops empty handed and with empty stomachs.

                        ((4 white farmers in Zimbabwe are being permitted to keep one farm and are being compensated for all capital improvements on land reclaimed by the government. Exceptions to this rule are farms which are in excess of permissable acreage, idle or under-utilized farms and farms next to communal lands. Some farmers own as many as 7 and 8 farms. African laborers on white farms are treated poorly and receive inadequate pay. Ian Smith, who lead white resistance to the black independence struggle, pays black laborers on his farm $4,300 Zim dollars ($72 US) per month and crowds them into one room hovels which lack electricity and other necessities. During the current phase of land reform, defiant white farmers have been arrested, but there has been no violence and no farmer has been forced out.))

                        In December 2001 the minimum wage set by the government was Zim$4200. Why? I don’t know, you ask the Zimbabwe government. In fact at $4300 Ian Smith is actually paying them more than the minimum wage. I do agree with you, it is a pitiful salary, and one just has to wonder why Mugabe set the minimum wage so low. I personally have spoken to a number of black people in Zimbabwe who have told me straight that they would prefer to be under Ian Smith’s rule than to be under Mugabe’s rule. Do you really believe that farmers are being compensated for all capital improvements on land reclaimed by the government? If you do you are more naïve than I thought. The government does not have money to use for this, or any other purpose. My in-laws cannot even visit us in South Africa because they are not allowed to take out foreign exchange. If they won’t allow my family to take out a meager Zim$5000, do you honestly think they will pay for capital improvements on a white farm?

                        ((5 some white farmers, resentful after receiving section 8 notices to surrender their farms to the government, are poisoning the soil with herbicides, poisoning livestock, destroying maize crop, blocking boreholes (wells), setting wildfires and commiting other forms of sabotage.))

                        I’m glad you said ‘some’. Most farmers comply. But think about this; you were born on this farm, you were raised here, you brought your new bride to this patch of land. You saw your children grow up on this farm. You worked hard, through thick and thin, through droughts, floods, economic hardships, insect plagues, animal diseases, bush fires. The farm grew, from a couple of head of cattle to a sizable herd, the dairy is doing well, and your pigs are sought after at the cold storage in town. You have built homes for your workers, and a school. Suddenly you are told to get off within a certain time. Everything you have worked for you now have to hand over to people who you know will not care about the cattle, the dairy, the pigs, or the school. You leave with your few belongings and watch as the hordes of ‘war vets’ stream through your gate. Tiger, I would like to see you do the same without harbouring some sort of resentment that maybe borders on criminal.

                        ((6 Zimbabwe's presidential elections in March, which saw President Mugabe returned to office, were declared "free and fair" by monitors from several African countries and the African Union. Since independence more than 20 political parties have operated in the country, including the MDC which is openly supported by white farmers, Britain and others opposed to the present government. Zimbabwe's election outcome stands in sharp contrast to the U.S. presidential election where thousands of black votes in Florida, which favored Bush's opponent, were thrown out.))

                        I cannot believe that there are still some people on God’s earth who still think the elections were ‘free and fair.’ I’m not even going to comment on this because if I do it will take hours to read.

                        ((For Zimbabwe's Indigenous population the land redistribution struggle represents the "Third Chimurenga". The first was the courageous yet unsuccessful 1890's resistance against white colonizers, and the second was the liberation struggle, won at a cost of more than 50,000 lives, which led to independence in 1980. In his book titled "British Betrayal of the Africans - Land, Cattle and Human Rights", Zimbabwean historian Aeneas Chigwedere writes, "thousands of Africans were killed, maimed and tortured in 1893, 1896-97, 1900-1904 and between 1970 and 1980; the Africans were impoverished and starved by the seizures of their cattle, goats, sheep and crops by an illegal regime; Africans were denied the necessary health facilities and continued to be decimated by the common tropical diseases; the Africans were denied education facilities and toiled as hewers of wood and drawers of water for the white man... I have a fair picture of the histories of all the former European colonies in Africa. I cannot find a single colony that was treated as mercilessly and as ruthlessly as Southern Rhodesia (Zimbabwe)". And then there is this observation by Mr. Chigwedere," Judging from their performance in Africa, the British are undoubtedly the worst racists that have existed on the face of the earth".))

                        I tend to agree with some of what you say here. I am not a racist, never been one, never will be one. Racism is sick and should be dealt with. Strange though Tiger, reading your articles it sort of occurs to me that you too are a racist. However, maybe racism is not so much to do with race and more to do with prejudices. Maybe it should be redefined as a willful disregard for someone else’s ideas and culture. When two black tribes war against each other, as is happening all over Africa, do you call that racism? If I don’t socialize with my fellow South African black brothers, does that make me a racist? If I don’t socialize with my black neighbour because all he talks about is fishing does that make me a racist?

                        ((Perhaps the fact finding delegation's most memorable meeting was with President Robert Mugabe. The meeting lasted nearly two hours as the president outlined the land issue and responded to our questions. Yet another meeting with Dr. Olivia Muchena, Minister of State with responsibility for monitoring the land reform program, provided us with additional insights into the land question. Dr. Muchena described how Western education contradicts traditional African values by making it clear that " when white people took the land, they disqualified themselves from being human, because they had done an inhuman act. They (the white people) took what belonged to God -- a form of sacrilege if you like".))

                        So if they disqualified themselves from being human it certainly seems strange that they made that land productive and used the produce to feed the country. If you do nothing with the talent God gave you maybe God will take it and give it to someone who can do some good with it.

                        ((Dr. Muchena then said, "the land is not a commodity. It cannot be bought and sold. The land is the sum total of who we are as human beings. This fundamental belief is at the core of our tenacity and the courage that you see in our president".))

                        Wow, what a novel idea. Land is free! Where do you stay Tiger? Don’t unpack those boxes; someone might just be knocking on your door asking for the keys! The problem is, whose land is it really? After you take it away from the whites who do you give it to? Do you give it to the Shonas? Or the Ndebele? Or the Rozwi? Who were the first people on that land? In fact lets go global. America. Oops, red Indians, come and repossess your land, but which tribe was there first? Australia, aborigines, move back to where you belong, just sort out among yourselves who was there first.

                        ((The government of Namibia, which firmly supports Zimbabwe, recently announced plans to expropriate 192 farms in its territory. Namibia's congress noted in a resolution"that it was concerned at the slow pace of land redistribution, which has the potential to cause civil strife". Namibia and its sprawling next door neighbor South Africa, each have land hungry populations whose patience has worn thin. Namibia's President Sam Nujoma, responding on one occasion to white claims of land ownership asked " so how much land did the white man bring to Africa?".))

                        It’s not a matter of how much land did the white man bring to Africa but what did he do with it!

                        ((In an editorial appropriately captioned "The end of Rhode's dream", a European newspaper opposed to Zimbabwe's land reform program, sadly recalled how "Cecil Rhodes imperial dream to move north from the Cape into the uncharted interior of Africa, exploiting its mineral wealth and introducing settlement", had come to an end. Rhode's dream to have whites dominate and exploit Africans "from the Cape to Cairo" has been Africa's long nightmare. Africa belongs to its people, and not to others, whose home is elsewhere! Zimbabwe is on the threshold of restoring stolen land to its rightful Indigenous owners. We must have no illusions about what is at stake here. The principled, defiant and resolute stand taken by President Mugabe and the Zimbabwean nation has shaken the imperialist world at its foundations. Restoring the land to the people is what Kenya's Land Freedom Army, disparagingly referred to as the Mau Mau, sought to achieve. Retaking the land has been the cornerstone of the fight for independence in every part of the African continent, if not the world. There are many who can recall how one of our greatest revolutionaries, Malcolm X, during his speech titled "Message to the Grassroots" said "revolution is based on land... the landless against the landlord ...land is the basis of independence".

                        Allow me to end this article with words spoken by President Robert Mugabe, words which drew sustained applause, during his historic August 12 Heroes Day Commemoration speech at National Heroes Acre. National Heroes Acre is a shrine and the final resting place for Zimbabwe's martyrs. "We are a child that imperialism would never have wanted to see born, one it would have rather scotched and quashed in the belly than see born. We emerge from circumstances of a resolute liberation struggle and thus carry a stamp of stolid, defiant protest. We do not kowtow to erstwhile imperialist forces with avid appetites for the control and manipulation of our lives and destiny and the continued exploitation of our wealth and resources". President Mugabe went on to point out that the process of retaking Indigenous land settles "the grievance of all grievances" that Zimbabweans would "not be deterred on this one question" and that "the land is ours"!))

                        Powerful words, ten points to the guy who writes his speeches. These wonderful thought provoking and emotionally charged discourses won’t help our Robert when his own people rise up against him. Lets face it, they have had better and who knows how empty a stomach must be, and for how long, before his so called ‘child’ rebels and ‘scotches’ him. Tiger, come back when all the white farmers have left Zimbabwe, and the drought is over, the land has been redistributed, and the black farmers are producing 100% of Zimbabwe’s food. Surely then with all the obstacles out of the way Zimbabwe will grow in leaps and bounds, food will be plentiful, enough to export.
                        This is not a matter of racism. This is just normal common economic sense.

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                        • #13
                          Dupart,

                          Some good stuff in there. When one reads it, you cant help but know that what you say is the truth based on real life... a life you have lived.



                          [Edited by Jaybang on 7th November 2002 at 06:50]
                          http://www.losingmyreligion.com

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                          • #14
                            Tiger 32 - That is the biggest load of babbling bull**** I have ever heard. Do you think that stuff is true because you saw it in writing?

                            Here is some truth for you. While Mugabe is in power the country will continue to go down. While the ZANU PF Party is in power the country will continue to go down.

                            Here is some conciliation for you. When another party gets in, there is a small, small chance that it may provide the first steps to a solution but the odds are it will end up just as bad and corrupt as the last one. And as always - asking the western countries for aid (so they can line their pockets with it).

                            If you support Mugabe - you are not part of any solution, you are part of the problem.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by cape
                              Tiger 32 - That is the biggest load of babbling bull**** I have ever heard. Do you think that stuff is true because you saw it in writing?

                              Of course it is true, the fact finding team from thirteen nations confirmed that it is true.

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