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  • Threat to ban

    The Administrator seems to have decided that Nubianman should be banned because he stands for justice and freedom.

    I have only one thing to say which I have repeated on numerous occassions, I will not be stifled and would prefer to engage in constructive and rigorous debates instead. Anything less than this means that my rights are being infringed, however like I have also said previously posting here is not anyone's right but a priviledge so it is entirely up to the administrator to do as he wishes beacuse frankly speaking I do not give a damn. Worse fate has befallen even greater people like Mandela, Biko and other victims of apartheid so to be banned is nothing - this is not the only board on which I post.

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    Mate,Mandela and Biko are great men indeed, but if you are trying to compare yourself to them,get real.It's a hell of a insult really to us as South Africans to even make such a statement.

    I can assure you Biko and Mandela don't share your views and I can assure you even more if Mandela was still a young boxer, you would have had it right on the chin.Long ago....

    How do I know? Because like me,Biko and Mandela are South African.It's something won't understand..........






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    • #3
      Originally posted by Nubianman
      The Administrator seems to have decided that Nubianman should be banned because he stands for justice and freedom.
      No you don’t. You stand for pissing people off and sh!tstirring. You have no concept of reason or consequence. Your constant, unsubstantiated “hate speech” has consequences. You brought this upon yourself.


      I have only one thing to say which I have repeated on numerous occasions, I will not be stifled and would prefer to engage in constructive and rigorous debates instead.
      Debate my ass! You cannot engage in anything other than mud-slinging. Many of us would love to debate your statements, but you play the racist card every time you get backed into a corner. That, my friend, is NOT a “constructive and rigorous debate”


      Worse fate has befallen even greater people like Mandela, Biko and other victims of apartheid…
      I agree with you on this one. At least these great men were fighting for something worthwhile. They sacrificed much to achieve what they did. You fight for hatred. Your convictions have no merit and no long-term feasibility. Your “teachings” only flair up racial tension and spits on that which these great men have worked so hard to attain. Yet – you have sacrificed nothing yourself. You will NEVER be comparable with any of these heroes.

      And finally:
      … this is not the only board on which I post.
      May you find the mindless flock you so badly need to lead there. They ain’t hanging around this board.

      You are not gonna get any sympathy over here either.
      If there's a 50/50 chance that something can go wrong...
      9 out of 10 times it will.

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      • #4
        Sorry, did I miss something?

        Where does it say that NubianMan is going to be banned?

        Anyway, in keeping with my earlier post in "Arrogant SA's", I have to say that his first post in that thread was very reasonable and uninflammatory, especially by his usual standards.

        If he can keep up his efforts not to be too insulting or discriminatory, I think he can provide a valuable input.

        No need to bandy about the B-word. Anyway, the place wouldn't be the same without him

        By all means, lets start those "constructive and rigorous debates".

        Peace
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        • #5
          Nubian,

          Let me say something here. I don't think you should be banned at all. I think you dig your own grave anyway. Its not like anyone on this forum even listens to what you have to say simply due to the fact in which you present your thoughts. If you aim is to get people to think outside the box they have been brought up in, if your aim is to get people to 'see' and understand the other side of the story, then you are unfortunately failing.

          If on the other hand you are here only to stir **** and cause race hate.. then you are doping a very good job.

          I want to point out one thing. I consider myself very open to any bodies opinion, and I have learned allot from you.. no sarcasm intended. You loathing of white people, made me want to understand why you felt so. Many of the facts and you have presented, I have looked up, and read about. I have often even suggested to other to read books such as the "Bang Bang club" ... I would have been more then happy on many occasions to have pushed our discussions further and deeper to learn things I did not know. You could have taught me much.

          Its just a shame that you feel the need to attack white people so much, and stir up tension when it is not needed.

          To make an enemy of just about every person on this board, and then you, the person who has ****ed up, the person who has acted in such an unreasonable way, blaming all the injustices of the past on each and every person who doesn't share your aggression and hate, turn around and try pointing fingers at people like myself... well I am sorry I just don't understand what your objectives are.

          You make enemies out of everyone!?! What is your objective? I'm not a racist, I'm none of that ****, man I feel more strongly about the wrongs that were done in the past then most people I know, and I welcomed your perspective and side of things.. I just wish you had a different approach, because now you just say the same **** time and time again and when you get your back up.. EVERYONE is a ****ing racist.

          I think you should maybe take a good long hard look at yourself and your approach, because for one thing, I don't want this forum to be one sided, I don't want 25 people thinking that there history is flawless, I want people to understand what happened and how it effected people, and I want people to understand why things are the way they are now... I want people to understand these things, because I want them to move forward.. to learn, to know, and understand.

          I am telling you now, if you were not such a ****wit with your approach, you could have helped me learn more, and you could have helped many others who like me, want to understand and learn.

          .. But right now, you are just making you're self unheard, and you are doing nothing for your cause or for Africans other then being a very hateful, stubborn stuck in the past African.
          http://www.losingmyreligion.com

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          • #6
            Avatar – Nubianman and Niquie had a bit of a run in the other day (on his "Freedom of Speech" thread if I remember correctly). She told him to cool his jets. He took it kinda personally and blew up at her ranting on about racism and free speech as he always does. Thay were actually very funny.
            If there's a 50/50 chance that something can go wrong...
            9 out of 10 times it will.

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            • #7
              Thanks Odin,
              I saw it, or what was left of it, (if some posts were deleted) after posting in this thread, and made my comments there too.

              Later
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              • #8
                On one hand, I think we should leave Nubianman on the forum - since he provides me with a good reason to some to work. Everytime I read one of his posts, I realize that just by being an open minded, well balanced individual, I manage to keep hateful people like him at bay. I also think that this board would be way too peaceful without him.
                On the other hand - he does say some bloody hurtful things and his lack of tact falls in line with that of Mugabe's.

                Nubian, sorry mate, you dug this hole for yourself.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Odin19
                  Avatar – Nubianman and Niquie had a bit of a run in the other day (on his "Freedom of Speech" thread if I remember correctly). She told him to cool his jets. He took it kinda personally and blew up at her ranting on about racism and free speech as he always does. Thay were actually very funny.
                  This post is the same kind of sensational reporting that the western media tries to employ when they are trying to paint African leaders in a bad light. Anyone who has read my replies to the administrator would know quite well that waht you have posted here is a distortion of the truth. This is in much the same way that Mugabe's view and other great African leaders such as Nkrumah, Kenyatta, Mandela, Seke Toure etc have had their views distorted in the past by the western media.
                  Lest we forget, Mandela was labelled a terrorist for fighting for the freedom of his people and his words were distorted to mean violence.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by tekkie221
                    On one hand, I think we should leave Nubianman on the forum - since he provides me with a good reason to some to work. Everytime I read one of his posts, I realize that just by being an open minded, well balanced individual, I manage to keep hateful people like him at bay. I also think that this board would be way too peaceful without him.
                    On the other hand - he does say some bloody hurtful things and his lack of tact falls in line with that of Mugabe's.

                    Nubian, sorry mate, you dug this hole for yourself.
                    Sorry you feel this way about my views but as I am sure even you know, the truth hurts. If I was not speaking the truth, then perhaps it would not matter so much, heh??

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                    • #11
                      What truth are you referring to? The truth that you dug this hole for yourself?

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                      • #12
                        I am afraid but if you cannot comprehend simple English, then perhaps you and I do not need to engage in a debate? Just a thought.

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                        • #13
                          I would hate to stiffle you again, NM. lol

                          I asked a simple question - no need to get personal. What truths are you referring to?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nubianman

                            This post is the same kind of sensational reporting that the western media tries to employ when they are trying to paint African leaders in a bad light. Anyone who has read my replies to the administrator would know quite well that waht you have posted here is a distortion of the truth. This is in much the same way that Mugabe's view and other great African leaders such as Nkrumah, Kenyatta, Mandela, Seke Toure etc have had their views distorted in the past by the western media.
                            Lest we forget, Mandela was labelled a terrorist for fighting for the freedom of his people and his words were distorted to mean violence.
                            As has been said, NubianMan, this board isn't a British colony, nor is it South Africa during the Apartheid years. And you ain't a revolutionary leader or political prisoner.

                            However, I certainly don't want to censor you, and I find the actual subject matter of anti-colonialism and anti-racism absolutely fascinating. So why don't you start a thread on the subject in Politics or History? I'll debate the issue out with you, even if nobody else wants to.

                            You're clearly a very intelligent man, and properly channelled anger combined with intelligence can make great things happen. But it's the channelling and direction for that anger, that you seem to lack at the moment. Direct your anger at the roots of racism if you want to have an effect, and not at a group of innocent discussion board moderators.



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                            • #15
                              I meant what I said.

                              Nubianman, I see you are a rewrite artist.

                              Folks, what I said was, and I quote:

                              Your calling anyone with whom you disagree a "racist" is a cheap shot. If you have differences, then you deal with them without the crutch of plastering vile labels on other members.

                              Frankly, I am weary of your chronic anger and your inability to hold a an adult conversation.

                              Get with the program...


                              After you posted your usual "rebuttal", I added:

                              Get with the program .. if you don't, I will escort you to the door.

                              Now, let me make this perfectly clear. I am weary of your chronic adolescent angst. It's like living with a 14 year old whose just been told that at 6 feet, she is still growing. What are we supposed to say? "God, she's one tall mad person!" And the taller she gets, the madder she gets.

                              We cannot make right what is wrong in your life. However, you have a right to your feelings and you have a right to express them. What you do NOT have is the right to call other VCI members vile names and label them "racist" simply to prop up a sagging argument or worse, TO START ONE.

                              So, KNOCK IT OFF.

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