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  • Africa belongs to Black people

    This is no lie. Black Africans have a claim on Africa that white South Africans do not have. They are Africans in the culture sense of the word. They live it and breathe it and are born to its earthliness. White South Africans are African only in the sense of being South African but not truly African. To be truly African you have to be black. This must sound very harsh to whites I know but just think about this:

    Black people were born of African soil. This is where their roots lay. Every black persons roots go back to Africa and nowhere else. White people do not have the same heritage. They came to Africa from other countries. Jan Van Riebeek landed in the Cape and built a fort and brought with him a colony, so you can say that white South Africans roots go back to Holland and also other countries like Germany, England, Portugal and many other. THIS IS THE POINT.

    Black people have their roots from their ancestors in Africa
    White people do not

    It is fair to then say: Black people are totally African where as white South Africans are South African with an ancestral background in countries other than Africa.

    I feel privileged to be so welcome in South Africa as a white person but the true claim on the land and its culture I hand over to my fellow black South African because he inherited it from his ancestors and it is truly his.

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    What? Wait. Are you for real?

    I feel privileged to be so welcome in South Africa as a white person but the true claim on the land and its culture I hand over to my fellow black South African because he inherited it from his ancestors and it is truly his.
    It's like you're trying so hard to be politcally correct that you've gone full-circle to become offensive again.

    "Black" people came to South Africa during the Bantu Migration between 400 - 1100 AD. They came from other present-day countries - Nigeria and its surrounds - and by your argument they have not much greater claim to South Africa than do white people, who arrived a few centuries later.

    If your idea of who is really African stems from who was there first, then South Africa belongs to the Khoi-San, who are completely marginalised in South Africa today.

    I suggest you reeducate yourself on early African history if this is going to be determine your ideas regarding who belongs in Africa and who doesn't.

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    • #3
      Hello Thunderstorm.Welcome -

      You probably know that Africa is the cradle of Human kind?

      That means all people living anywhere in the world,including Holland,came from Africa.
      In all everyones 'roots' came from Africa.Yes,our ancestral heritage we can trace back to certain countries because that's just 'recent.'

      An 'African-American' does not have more right to call himself African than a 'white' person born in Africa.

      Also,From what you are saying 'white' Americans and 'African-Americans' cannot lay claim to America.It belongs to the native-Americans( Indians).

      That said.I think a country belongs to those who live in it,and contribute positively.

      Cheap history and geography lessons for guys and girls like us is to watch 'The History channel or 'National Geographic'.You get educated while lying in bed or sitting on the couch.

      Wish school was like that!

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      • #4
        Good points I will remember Woestynryer!

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        • #5
          I almost fell off my chair!!!!!!!!!!!!

          What????

          I feel privileged to be so welcome in South Africa as a white person but the true claim on the land and its culture I hand over to my fellow black South African because he inherited it from his ancestors and it is truly his.

          What????

          You definitely speak for yourself! I cannot believe I'm am seeing this in 2006! Where have you been? I would like to see you in person so I could buy you a cup of coffee and personally show you the world outside you're little box... Picking up a history book once in a while wont hurt.

          Take a look at the "world leaders", the USA. They killed, slaughtered and fought for the land and country that they could call their own. Barbarians, perhaps today, but that is exactly how things were handled back then! So why not send a letter to Bush, telling him he should hand back the USA to the native Americans. What do YOU think he would say to that? Did you know that the natives are still treated like savages today?

          This country was occupied by the English - who played a great hand in turning the African population into slaves! The WHITE South African Boer fought and bled to gain the land and country. Now you sit there and dare to type you gladly give it back, after this country was built on the backs of the WHITE South African man, after he bled and died so that You and You're family could live here!!!!!!

          South Africa has thankfully come a long way since those days, but if White South Africans start loosing their heritage and roots. I'm afraid that all is already lost.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hitler View Post
            Now you sit there and dare to type you gladly give it back, after this country was built on the backs of the WHITE South African man, after he bled and died so that You and You're family could live here!!!!!!
            Sorry, but South Africa was built by the blood, sweat and tears of BLACK South Africans while the white South Africans sat around drinking coffee watching from their cruisy management jobs. Job reservation saw to it that no white South African had to break a sweat unless he wanted to, while no black South African could have a job where he didn't.

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            • #7
              Nice one Thunderstorm , you actually got some response on the forum to your Idiotic post... More than I can say for mine.

              Africa belongs to Black people
              Now this is funny

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              • #8
                Let's make a deal

                Originally posted by Thunderstorm View Post
                This is no lie. Black Africans have a claim on Africa that white South Africans do not have. (clip) Blaa blaablaa
                Will gladly take White Africans to Europe if you take Black people from Europe to Africa.
                Deal?
                There's plenty of room behind the sauna
                www.suomensisu.org

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                • #9
                  Africa belongs to........

                  Originally posted by ches View Post
                  Sorry, but South Africa was built by the blood, sweat and tears of BLACK South Africans while the white South Africans sat around drinking coffee watching from their cruisy management jobs. Job reservation saw to it that no white South African had to break a sweat unless he wanted to, while no black South African could have a job where he didn't.

                  Then it's quite safe and politically correct to say that South Africa has been brought to it's current status of the rape and murder capitol of the world by those very same BLACK South Africans! Those same BLACK South Africans who now have"B.E.E." and "afirmative action" on their side, those same BLACK South Africans who are responsible for the slaughter of over two thousand (2000) white farmers and countless other whites and thousands of their own kind. All this taking place while the current Black tin pot terrorist run administration watch, sitting around drinking whisky, and encouraging the chaos from cruisy government posts. New job reservation has seen to it that whites have to carry lazy uneducated unqualified Blacks on their shoulders in the work place while the poor Black get's the top salary. Those very same poor Black labourers who bled, sweated and cried whilst doing the only jobs they were capable of doing for wages that were appropriate at the time, are now bleeding the country dry, bleeding whites to their death while their families cry. It's quite safe to say that it is the black who is the main culprit for all the vile murder, rape, child rape, granny rape, animal rape and general chaos and filth prevailing in South Africa today.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by crazy horse View Post
                    Then it's quite safe and politically correct to say that South Africa has been brought to it's current status of the rape and murder capitol of the world by those very same BLACK South Africans! Those same BLACK South Africans who now have"B.E.E." and "afirmative action" on their side, those same BLACK South Africans who are responsible for the slaughter of over two thousand (2000) white farmers and countless other whites and thousands of their own kind. All this taking place while the current Black tin pot terrorist run administration watch, sitting around drinking whisky, and encouraging the chaos from cruisy government posts. New job reservation has seen to it that whites have to carry lazy uneducated unqualified Blacks on their shoulders in the work place while the poor Black get's the top salary. Those very same poor Black labourers who bled, sweated and cried whilst doing the only jobs they were capable of doing for wages that were appropriate at the time, are now bleeding the country dry, bleeding whites to their death while their families cry. It's quite safe to say that it is the black who is the main culprit for all the vile murder, rape, child rape, granny rape, animal rape and general chaos and filth prevailing in South Africa today.
                    What a mess!!!!we have to admit to....
                    Moonwalker

                    The mystery of the beginning of all things is insoluble by us,
                    And I for one must be content to remain an agnostic
                    ...Charles Darwin...

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Moonwalker View Post
                      What a mess!!!!we have to admit to....
                      Are you talking about the real state of our country or of CrazyHorse's opinions?

                      I love the ignore feature, but you had to go and ruin it by quoting his post.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ches View Post
                        Are you talking about the real state of our country or of CrazyHorse's opinions?

                        I love the ignore feature, but you had to go and ruin it by quoting his post.
                        I love the ignore feature as well, it allows people to simply ignore or hide from facing the truth and things they won't accept! Another good aspect of the ignore button is that it allows one the freedom of personal choice, something sadly lacking in todays so called African democracies.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by crazy horse View Post
                          I love the ignore feature as well, it allows people to simply ignore or hide from facing the truth and things they won't accept! Another good aspect of the ignore button is that it allows one the freedom of personal choice, something sadly lacking in todays so called African democracies.
                          Dear God, Crazy horse, you have some issues, and stiil not a stir from Cher, and the others, wow, no bias then!

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                          • #14
                            Okay, so when are you really black?

                            My Friend, you are completely wrong!

                            Your thinking is based on mere assumptions. Have you ever thought that it's possible that white ppl could have been living here? I mean, do you have facts to prove your point?

                            Anyway, let's rather focus our energies on the real argument. What's that?

                            What's the bigger battle: the race battle or the class battle?

                            Race and class are not interchangeable.

                            Forward to real socialism - the real power to the real ppl.

                            Thank you.

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                            • #15
                              I came to these forums to get the local perspective on life after Apartheid. May I say that I am elated to find that many want to live together in peace, love, and unity! We are all part of the human race....and it does not matter where we came from....All that matters is where we are going.

                              Does the political climate currently serve the call for unity?

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